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	<title>Comments on: When you have to store user passwords&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: mobileAgent</title>
		<link>http://www.coffeepowered.net/2009/12/15/when-you-have-to-store-user-passwords/comment-page-1/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>mobileAgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might also like the lucifer plugin which has worked well for me in the past: &lt;a href=&quot;http://github.com/jmckible/lucifer/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://github.com/jmckible/lucifer/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might also like the lucifer plugin which has worked well for me in the past: <a href="http://github.com/jmckible/lucifer/" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/jmckible/lucifer/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely. As I noted in the article, that won&#039;t protect you against a shell access compromise. Nothing can, really - if an attacker can get the same access to your code that your app can, he can get access to your key files or passphrases, unless you use a system where they&#039;re loaded into application memory and then removed from the filesystem (something like a USB key, for example). At that point, they&#039;ll have to resort to gdb, which is a somewhat tougher nut. ;) 
 
It will, however, protect you from simple SQL injection attacks resulting in the attacker gaining all of your customers&#039; plaintext passwords. It&#039;s not a perfect solution by any means, but it is a first line of defense. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. As I noted in the article, that won&#039;t protect you against a shell access compromise. Nothing can, really &#8211; if an attacker can get the same access to your code that your app can, he can get access to your key files or passphrases, unless you use a system where they&#039;re loaded into application memory and then removed from the filesystem (something like a USB key, for example). At that point, they&#039;ll have to resort to gdb, which is a somewhat tougher nut. ;)</p>
<p>It will, however, protect you from simple SQL injection attacks resulting in the attacker gaining all of your customers&#039; plaintext passwords. It&#039;s not a perfect solution by any means, but it is a first line of defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Prefect</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prefect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears you are using AES encryption of the passwords, which would work well if all someone had was the output, for example the output of a database table of user credentials.

Except in the rockyou.com case, the actor had shell access (read access to the code the application used, along with that key equals value).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears you are using AES encryption of the passwords, which would work well if all someone had was the output, for example the output of a database table of user credentials.</p>
<p>Except in the rockyou.com case, the actor had shell access (read access to the code the application used, along with that key equals value).</p>
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